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Mary's Place - a shelter for the homeless -- finds itself without a home
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Meeting with 5 Providers
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| Crystal Segal spoke of meeting with service providers during Seattle First United Methodist's discernment process. Which implied that when they met with 5 different homeless providers that this informed them in their decision to open a men's facility - but word on the street from this group of 5, was that ALL FIVE said to keep Mary's. Unfortunately, the church went against the recommendation of experts in the field, against their established verbal agreement, and against common sense in an economic downturn to start something new with no viable funding. This situation is sad, and I wish the best for both agencies, but feel Mary's was done a great disservice. | |
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MLC
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Boy, that's a whopper!
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| Sorry, MLC, you got it exactly wrong. At the church's meeting with homeless providers the word very clearly was "24-Hour Shelter." This was heard over and over again. The church can supply a transcript of the evening's discussion to prove this point, if necessary. I hope you will choose only to share factual information in the future. | |
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Where is MLC getting their so-called information?
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| Yikes! This is how inaccurate and inflammatory information gts perpetuated in the name of a "good cause." All of the meetings between the church and leadership in homeless services said that 24-hour shelter is needed much, much more than drop-in space. As a taxpayer, I am proud that our city and county stepped up to both preserve the historic sanctuary at 5th and Marion (the original reason for the grants) and help the church to administer to the homeless in a meaningful way. First Church is to be commended for its responsible approach to maximizing the benefits of the dollars they receive by researching the need and targeting their facility to meet it. If only more grants were handled with this depth of vision. MLC, get your facts straight before you publish the next time! | |
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Susan Black
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Men's services are needed, but not at the expense of a successful service!
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Currently there are limited resources for single men out there, so the need to expand in that area is important. However, FUMC's decision to end a successful service to add a new one, is not the best decision. One thing that struck me was a quote from the story, "[...] we wanted to see the entire congregation transformed by this work." Sometimes people mistake the point of helping those less fortunate; it is not to make yourself feel better, it is to help those in need. The goal of any social services endeavor should not be to "transform" the helpers, but rather, to serve the clients, in this case, the homeless. I believe FUMC could have done better by continuing their support of Mary's Place, while encouraging their congregation to volunteer and help at any organization that their skills are compatible with. In the case of Mary's Place, while men on the front line are not employed as volunteers given the nature of some of the clients, those men of FUMC could find other worthwhile organizations to donate their time and energy to help the community. FUMC would have better served the community at large had they supported Mary's and encouraged their congregation to do more, on their own, for their community. |
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Chris
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Pray For Mary's
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I've grown up working and volunteering at Mary's Place and to say that 24 hour space is more needed than drop in space is misleading. While I agree that 24 hour shelters are desirable and very helpful, it is important to look at the capacity of people that day drop in shelters can help. First Church's new shelter will provide 30 beds, but Mary's regularly helps between 40-70 women a day! Mary's provides tons of services that are crucial to helping fight homelessness and ultimately help bring ladies and their families out of it. I find it hard to believe that you are able to commend one group over another for helping the homeless in a more "meaningful" way. Each provides different and important services and if first church wants to go a different way that's absolutely fine, All Mary's Place is asking for is prayer that a new location will soon open up. Pray for Mary's and First Church! |
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mary's place
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| It's unfortunate that naivete is guiding all this,.. The reality is FUMC was advised, "don't try to run a shelter led by your members." Then they did their due diligence of meeting with many others out in the arena where services are delivered. Credit them for that, to be sure. They seem to have heard that initial message, enlisting Catholic Community Services to "guide the shelter," though for how much work on CCS's part remains unclear. Sadly, the naivete is that a shelter will "build a ministry," when in fact it will more than likely burn out members. Were there no other group affected, such as Mary's Place, FUMC would be welcome to try and do it and succeed or fail. This need to make it "Methodist" is unfortunate. At this point one can only wish the process success, but it is clear that public money will be necessary, and so far the payment of $1M in 2009 public dollars for hosting 31 men, with no hosting even beginnin guntil 2010 at the earliest, is questionable; especially if the shelter is meant to "build church membership." I'd have hoped and do hope it is and will be about the homeless and this talk of "transforming the congregation" via hosting a shelter can subside. Otherwise, it seems it is just about FUMC. | |
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Let it be
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| Gimme a break. People want to tell First Church how to use its space and are upset it has decided to use it for its ministry. The goal of any church is to conduct its ministry. First Church wants to do that in its own space. Let it. No big deal. If it wants to involve its members, let it. Again, no big deal. Why don't people just mind their own business about someone else's space. The way it's supposed to work is: you own it, you do with it what you want. Period. | |
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Mary's Place Shelter
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| How pathetic that you feel women and men are more important than CHILDREN..The children are the future and for you not to see the need to shelter them is appauling. Remember the women and children are the victims here. We definitely have way too many shelters for men but have you really looked into how short housing is for women and children!! | |
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too many shelters?
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| Ms. Gruger - a) we do need more housing for women and children, b) Mary's Place provides NO HOUSING for women, children, or anyone (it's a daytime drop-in center, dear), c) there are 2500 people in Seattle living on the streets, d) 80% of people living on the streets are men. Where do you get the idea Mary's Place is helping the housing problem? | |
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Enough already?
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| So sad we live in such a wealthy city and we can't meet the needs of all. I pray they both find success, that the abundance of God will prevail. | |
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| Just show up in front of Mayor lardo's footsteps and put up camp there and stay for couple of nights. Let's see how much he likes what he has "accomplished" on behalf of this city of ours. | |
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