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Johjima's departure leaves Mariners facing roster issues
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John Hickey
PostGlobe Mariners reporter
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The big issue with Branyan is whether or not his back is healthy. A herniated disc is a major issue for a power hitter, especially one like Branyan. If the M's aren't 100% sure that he's all right, they should pass on re-signing him, regardless of the possible PR backlash. Next year is still a rebuilding year for the M's, and having a 33-year-old 1B with a bad back locked into a long-term contract is a bad idea. Mike Carp looked sharp in his cups of coffee with the M's, and he could be the 1B for the M's next season. As for Jack Wilson, the Johjima situation changes things there. The M's thought they were saddled with Johjima's $7.7 million salary for 2010, with either the right to exercise Wilson's option at $8.4 million or to decline it for $600,000. Given the burden of Johjima's salary, it looked like the team would either decline the option altogether or try to negotiate a better deal with Wilson (i.e., a 2-year deal at $10 million total.) In other words, that $7.7 million was a "sunk cost", so to speak. However, now that Johjima has left, that $7.7 million is freed up. Since the team had already earmarked that money for salary, they could conceivably re-allocate that money toward Wilson, and make the following decision: decline his option for $600,000 or effectively exercise the option for $700,000 ($8.4 million less $7.7 million.) For a $100,000 difference, the decision to keep Wilson seems much easier, especially since it doesn't bind Wilson to the team after 2010 (when Carlos Triunfel should be close to ready to make his MLB debut.) I don't like the idea of moving Jose Lopez to 3B. One of the reasons they moved him away from SS (his original position) is his tendency to double-pump when he makes his throws. At 2B, with a shorter throw to 1B, that wasn't so bad. On the left side of the diamond, however, that could be lethal. In addition, Lopez has the worst range of any AL 2B, and moving him to 3B means a LOT of balls would go down the LF line against the M's; Wilson would save him in the 3B-SS hole because he has one of the best range factors of any SS in baseball. The M's have used pitching and defense as a building block, and moving Lopez to 3B would severely weaken that. Moving him to 1B, however, would probably negate that, and the M's could either use Matt Tuiasosopo at 2B or sign a free agent (Freddy Sanchez will be available... reuniting Sanchez and Wilson as the double-play combo could be an inspired decision.) That being said, they may want to keep 1B clear for Carp. As for catcher... all the M's need to do is sign a "caddy" for Rob Johnson and Adam Moore for 2010, to get Moore ready to take the reins full-time in 2011. There are PLENTY of choices available on the free agent market this winter, none of whom will be terribly expensive (Ivan Rodriguez, Brad Ausmus, Jose Molina, Brian Schneider, possibly Yorvit Torrealba, etc.) Still, 3B and LF are big holes. Saunders obviously isn't ready for the big-time yet, and Bill Hall's bat has disappeared. We're only paying $1.5 million of Hall's salary next season (the Brewers are picking up the rest), but that doesn't mean he should only play like he's getting paid that much. His plate discipline is sorely lacking, and he's not a good outfielder at all. His best position in the field is 3B, but can the M's afford to carry another .200 hitter this season? I don't think so. There is a sleeper 3B candidate out there in the free agent market: Troy Glaus. Remember that 5 years ago, the M's had the choice of signing either Glaus or Adrian Beltre for 3B (they had the same choice at 1B: Richie Sexson or Carlos Delgado... they definitely made the wrong decision there.) Glaus' health was an issue this year, but he seemed to come back strong at the end of the year. His throwing shoulder is the main concern there, but if that checks out okay, he could be a great under-the-radar signing that could add a potent power bat to the M's lineup. When healthy, Glaus has ballpark-proof power, and he's not an NL-only player; he came up with the Angels and also played with the Blue Jays. The M's could come up with another relatively low-profile name for LF from the free agents: Garret Anderson. He's a professional hitter, coming off of an injury-plagued season with the Braves. But he could be a good clubhouse leader, and if nothing else, an advance scout against his old Angels teammates. Point blank, the M's shouldn't break the bank this off-season for free agents; it's one of the worst overall free agent markets in the last decade and, quite frankly, the M's are NOT going to contend next season. 2011 is their target to make a run at the division title, and they'll be better served to keep their financial flexibility until the market improves next winter and THEN make their move for free agents. |
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| Johjima's departure is good news. He was a better hitter than most Mariner catchers have but did not justify the salary. And I do think the Mariners could contend next year. The Angels are playing otu their string with their current roster and should be weaker next year without Lackey et al. | |
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The only thing a team NEEDS is 25 men. We already have two who can catch
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"And the Mariners will need to add a veteran catcher, too." Really? The Mariners NEED to add a veteran catcher? Why? Have you forgotten we have Adam Moore and Rob Johnson? |
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2010 Season
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Re-sign Bedard or sign Brandon Webb or sign Rich Harden Re-sign Branyan or sign Aubrey Huff Acquire JJ Hardy or sign Freddy Sanchez or Re-sign Beltre Give Tuiasosopo a look at SS Sign Jason Bay or start Saunders in LF Could be: C-1B-2B-3B-SS-LF-CF-RF-DH Moore/Johnson-Carp-Lopez-Beltre/Sanchez/Tuiasosopo-Hardy/Tuiasosopo-Saunders/Bay-Gutierrez-Ichiro-Branyan/Huff 1-2-3-4-5 Hernandez-Webb/Bedard/Harden-RRS-Snell-Fister/Vargas |
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| troy glauss appears ready to play. in his few appearances with the cards this sept, he looked ready and the arm looked adequate. if the cards had room, they would probably make a run at him. they have a good young prospect in david freeze plus they look good to re-sign de rosa. glauss should come at a very reasonable price as well. a very good catch from commenter jp. | |
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| I doubt if Branyan can duplicate 2009 and Carp is ready to play. He's an adequate fielder and a more reliable offensive contributor. Lopez needs to be in the lineup, possibly as DH since his only effective position is really 1B. Moore, Saunders and Tui are very close and probably have proved all the can in the minors. It isn't unusual for ultimately outstanding MLB players to struggle their first year or two [Koufax, A Rod et al] and the Mariners need to exercise patience and show some confidence in their youngsters. | |
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Re-sign Beltre! Do whatever it takes! Let Bedard go. Re-sign Washburn. Try to get Jamie Burke back as the veteran catcher. At first base, Branyan was a defensive liability. Hands of cement. Carp does not hit for power, and you need power at 1st base. Bryan LaHair? Trade? Free Agent? Lopez? Lopez is a major defensive liability at second and would also be a huge downgrade at third base. You can't build your team around pitching and defense and have Lopez anywhere other than 1st base or DH. Tui at second base Look for a good shortstop via trade or free agent market. If the M's decide to stick with Jack Wilson, they need to re-negotiate his salary. He is not worth $8.4m. |
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No doubt it is another vital offseason for my beloved Mariners. Jack Z needs at least one big trade like last season. I think as far as LF goes, we can afford to take our chances by having an open competition in Spring, no big moves needed there. Bring in Saunders, Ackley (I know he inexperienced, but he wanted a Major League contract, so let see what he has to offer in spite of it, you never know, he could be the next John Olerud), Endy Chavez, and some other youngsters. 3B and SS are vital positions for our team this offseason. I want Adrian Beltre here next season, but I don't know if he wants to come back. I loved the idea about seeing what the Brewers want for Hardy, I like his bat and glove. 8.4 million seems like a lot for Jack Wilson, but before cutting him loose, see if there is interest with other teams about a trade before agreeing to the option or not. You could almost think of letting Wilson's contract go as long as it means you can get Beltre back for about the same money (I'm guessing it'll be about 10 million per for 3-4 years) I liked what I saw from Carp, but don't want to give up on Branyan either (as long as he's healthy). Also, I like the idea of talking to Troy Glaus too, and he can play 1B as well. He's a decent hitter with a good OBP. And I hope Griffey comes back for another year, but if not then (I know I'm in the minority here) why not talking to a Carlos Delgado. I know he's old, but if healthy still very productive and from what I hear, he's great in the clubhouse. Maybe talk to him if we can't resign Branyan and if Carp isn't ready. As far as catching is concerned, I loved Kenji, just not at that price. I like the Idea of bringing in a veteran like a Josh Bard or Ramon Hernandez to push Moore and Johnson. I want to see Adam Moore take the reigns at catcher this year, but he's got to earn it. I'm not sure about Jose Lopez, I love his bat, but his defense in mediocre at best. I would love to see him embrace a move to 1B, but not sure thats going to happen. My feeling is that if Jack Z is going to make a big move this offseason, Lopez might be the casualty. He a solid bat that other teams like with some flexibility in the field that NL teams covet. He could very well be the piece that turn a good trade into a great, organization changing trade for us. I'll be watching all offseason for good news on the mariners front, I hope to see some more moves in the right direction. |
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This is what I want for our M's next year. (No, I'm not high) C-Moore/Johnson 1b-Carp/ .295; 20HR; 90 RBI 2b-Trade Lopez; pick up Iwamura-sets up good 1-2 punch with Ichiro, plays great D; is fast; and hits for +.300 average. 3b-Tui/ .260; 15-18 HR; 65 RBI SS-No Jack! Find some offense+defense here. (Use lopez in trade for Tulowitzki?) LF-Saunders/like his defense, lefty bat, and I think his production will jump next year say .270 ave; 18 HR; 70RBI. CF-Gutierrez/ .295; 25HR; 100 RBI RF-Duh! DH-Power/Ave (Lower K please, not branyan) and one who is willing to hit cleanup, not second in the order. Prefer Lefty bat. SP-Hernandez (If we trade him; we need a haul as good as what we gave Baltimore) SP-Free agent; a proven HEALTHY winner; not a bedard, sheets, etc. SP-RRS SP-Snell SP-Morrow As for the relief core, not sold on any of them. Aardsma has me worried he was a fluke-trade him while his value is high, Lowe was very shaky at times, the rest give me shivers. |
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